car #2: how to buy a new car

by Kelly on February 8, 2010

in consumer,shopping

Well we did it. I hemmed and hawed about it, but we really do need a second car. We may not need 2 cars every day, but our schedules are only getting busier, and the inconvenience, time, and money spent driving out of my way every day over the winter was just too much.

My husband researched the car he wanted based on fuel economy, price, and value. With a key factors being:

Why is value so important? It can save you THOUSANDS of dollars over the life of a car. I’m going to say something controversial in the personal finance world: buy new.

While a $5,000 beater seems like a steal, it is because it will only last you a few years, and could cost you a ton in repairs. With used cars there is no guarantee that you will have a “clean” car, even with CarFax, or other reports. Unless you happen to have a grandmom selling a car, or know someone who does, it’s much better to buy new (assuming you have good credit).

A lot of bloggers, and frugal people will argue that driving a new car off the lot means we spent $3K or more on depreciation. While that is true for SOME cars, it is not true for all cars. If a car holds its’ value well buying a 2 or 3 year old model may save you next to nothing. Factor in good interest rates (again, if you have good credit), and you they are about even. In some cases you may even get a 0% loan, and then it is definitely cheaper to go new.

We decided on Friday to buy a car, Monday morning hubby drove his car off the lot with 4 miles on the odometer. We could have had it Saturday, but we ran into an issue, which I’ll tell you about later this week.

We bought a Honda Fit. It’s rated well in everything important to us, and has enough room for several kids. It’s fuel efficient, will hold its’ value, and my son will be driving it in less than 4 years. (I wrote that but I’m pretending it’s not true)

If you’re in the market for a car, here are the steps I’ve used twice with great success.

How to buy a new car without getting ripped off:

These are the steps we took to buy our car, and I highly recommend you follow them too if you are purchasing a car (new or used).

  1. Figure out how much you want to pay for a car. Are you going to save up to pay for it in cash? Are you going to finance it?
  2. Research, research, research to find the model car that best suits you and your lifestyle, and your possible future. (you may be single now, but think ahead to a time when you might need a 4 seater)
  3. Once you’ve narrowed it down to 1-3 models, take them out for a test drive. (do NOT get sucked in here, people)
  4. Check out what people are paying online for the car in your area. This will give you an idea of what the price actually sells for versus what a salesman might tell you it’s selling for.
  5. Get pre-approved. I can not stress this enough. Don’t go shopping without your own financing. Yes, the dealer will try to beat it, and might, but go with your own money in hand. (whether it’s cash or a check from a bank)
  6. Look up dealers, and start emailing them. Ask for their drive off the lot pricing. I can’t emphasis that enough. You want to know what the car, fees, taxes, and registration add up to. Also, don’t be afraid to look outside your local area. Would you drive 200 miles to save $3,000? You betcha.
  7. Once you have your lowest price go to the dealer. Do NOT go in there thinking you will leave with a car. Be willing to walk away, have a cup of coffee, make a phone call, or play on twitter.
  8. If you are selling your current car, do NOT mention it to the salesperson. Negotiate that after your sale, or better yet sell it privately. You will get a ton more for it. Yes it’s a hassle, but it can pay off.
  9. Make sure you read everything you are signing. EVERY word.
  10. Do NOT buy extras on the lot. Our car came without floormats. We saved $100 by not having the dealer install them.
  11. Drive off laughing. Seriously, if you followed all that, you probably got a pretty sweet deal.

Here’s an excellent video I found via Lifehacker that outlines most of these steps, but in a way more amusing way.

Alright, bracing for it. Tell me what you think. Do you buy used? Do you buy new and run it into the ground? Do you think I’m crazy for buying new?

Kelly

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Jesse February 12, 2010 at 5:55 pm

My wife and I have been saving for a car for the past year at least, and have a good amount saved but I couldn't make the decision between new or certified pre-owned or junker. We need a bigger car because of the kids so that brings the price of new to about 20k and we don't have that much saved up. Our current car was purchased brand new, 3 miles on her, and I haven't regretted it so I really was leaning towards new. I especially want reliable because the car is for the wife and I don't want her breaking down in the snow with the kids.

I'm glad to see another in the pf community hitting all the points and making an informed decision that fits them best. Thanks for all teh tips.

Jess @OpenlyBalanced February 12, 2010 at 6:59 am

Best. Car. Ever. I also bought a Fit new, after saying for years that I would never buy a new car because of the depreciation issues. But I discovered what you did – you don't really save money buying a used Fit!

I've had mine for two years now and hope to drive it forever and ever!

(Mine also came without floormats. I was so disappointed, but yep – saved a fortune buying them online.)

Wojciech Kulicki February 10, 2010 at 12:01 pm

Congrats on the new addition! :)

We are getting there–we’ve been trying the one-car thing for a few months, but it has not been working well.

We’re going to spend the money to fix our second car, but it will be time to look for something newer soon.

I have to admit that I REALLY want to buy used this time, and I finally have my wife on board with the idea.

I don’t know how the experience will go vs. a new car purchase, but you’ve got to try everything once, right? :)
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Kosmo @ The Casual Observer February 9, 2010 at 8:19 am

The last car we bought was a program car. It had 9500 miles on it, and was still the current model year (although the new ones came out a few months later).

It’s a lot cheaper to let someone else drive those first 10K miles.

We also didn’t really have an option, since that car (’06 Taurus) was only made for fleet, and couldn’t be purchased new off the lot.
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Stacy Farrell February 9, 2010 at 12:12 am

Hi Kelly,

I will never buy a used car again. With the 3 previous used cars I have owned, They probably lasted me on average a little over a year. About 15 months.

I’m looking for a new car right now. Definitely going to look into the Honda Fit.

Thanks,

Stacy

Michelle | Poster Printing February 8, 2010 at 11:22 pm

I think buying new is also ideal. You would be sure it is in good shape and it has a guarantee. And you will be sure no smelly babies have gone through it.

Mike February 8, 2010 at 10:43 pm

I think in general a used car is cheaper than a new car, but then you are looking at more hassle and time with buying the used car and fixing it more often.

My current car was bought new and I seriously doubt that our next car won’t be. :)

Victor | UPrinting February 8, 2010 at 10:41 pm

Buying a new one I think is better compared than buying a slightly used/second hand car. You are right that initially we might save a few thousand of dollars, but we must be prepared to spend on a couple of repairs.

JoeTaxpayer February 8, 2010 at 9:12 pm

You didn’t say how much below MSRP you got, but no, I don’t think you made a mistake.
I hear all the talk of buying used, and wonder if it’s worth the risk of never really knowing what if anything is wrong with the car. By buying new, you know the oil’s been changed every X miles, and the car maintained well.

What is crazy is when people need to take a five year loan out to afford that car. That’s another story.

WellHeeledBlog February 8, 2010 at 9:07 pm

Oh, and if I buy a car I’m probably buying a new Honda. Hondas & Toyotas (well, before this whole recall), tend to hold their values really well, so as you’ve said, it doesn’t really make much of a difference buying a new car or a 1-3 year old car. I plan on driving my next car for 10+ years (current car is 14-years-old!), so the new car premium amortized over a decade wouldn’t be too much.

WellHeeledBlog February 8, 2010 at 9:05 pm

Honda Fit is a great car! Looking at it in a parking lot though, I’m a little concerned about how small it is. I’m sure it has great safety ratings like most Hondas, but it just looks so tiny even next to regular-sized sedan.

Steph February 8, 2010 at 8:26 pm

I agree with everything except the “buy new” part. But then, you knew some of us would. :)

We buy used – have been Toyota drivers since the late ’80′s. In the past 19 years, we have owned 5 cars (3 that we drove into the ground and our current 2 that we drive). We buy a 2-3 year old Camry almost every time with under 40K miles on it, under 25K if at all possible. So far, we’ve driven all of our cars to 190K+ miles and have no complaints at all about not getting a good buy and excellent value by buying used. As long as you’re buying a car with excellent ratings (usually Toyota or Honda), in my humble opinion, you are much better off buying a very-gently used car.

Nice blog post!

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